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151
L: So it it stands to reason if I believe in a
conspiracy,
152 people are going to act like conspirators.
153 T: Yeoh. So far, okay.
154 L: Yeah.
155 T: [laughs]
156
L: Yeah, but I told Dr. Stumpf, he walked in to
[clears
157 throat] the room just as I was saying
something
158 negative about doctors. [laughs]
159 T: [laughs]
160 L: But he denied that he heard it.
161 T: What? Who walked in the room, Peter?
162 L: Huh?
163 T: Just as (.) Who walked in the room just as
when you
164 were saying something?
165 L: Dr. Stumpf.
166 T: Ahuh ah.
167 L: (3) But I don't know, maybe I expected him
to walk in
168 when I said something negative about doctors. I
mean,
169 they try. [laughs]
170 T: Well, that sorta thing happens, is happening
all the
171 time, I mean, I don't I I I eh I don't see wha
y' making a
172 special point of that about?
173 L: Whata ya mean?
174 T: I don't see why (.) you are making a special
point of
175 telling me that eh eh just now since
that sorta thing as
176 you know I know and urn I know you know happens
all
177 the time anyway.
178 L: Yeah. Well, cause cause they are watching
us.
179 T: [chuckles] Yeah, huh, alright (gotta
stop) [laughs] (8)
180 Well, I mean, this whole sit up set up is an
enormous
181 conspiracy and you're right in eh, right in the
heart of
182 the conspiracy just now.
183 L: Ump.
184 T: So eh if you haven't [laughs,
coughs] if you, if you if
185 you came to Phoenix to get away from the
conspiracy,
186 you haven't done very well.
[laughs]
187 L: What do you mean?
188 T: Well, you're sitting here in this
situation.
189 L: You mean the conference is a conspiracy?
190 T: Yah. Course.
191 L: What kind of a conspiracy?
192 T: [clears throat] Eh, well, I've got a
I've got a plane
193 booked eh, to get to Boston Sunday, so I'm not
going
194 to say what sorta conspiracy is because I want
to go on
195 that plane in a, in good order as far as I'm
concerned.
196 No, I think it is quite a benign conspiracy. It
certainly a
197 very concerted deep plan and it involves eh its
much
198 wider than the people who are actually here.
Seven
199 thousand people=
200 L: Huh?
201 T: =have flown in and and that's a minor
conspiracy eh in
202 terms of the galaxy but it's quite a big
conspiracy.
203 L: Oh, well, what do you know about it.
204 T: Huh?
205 L: What do you know about it?
206 T: Well, I think it's eh, ah (2) I think the
universal mind is
207 eh has been asleep abit eh as far as this
planet goes, I
208 mean in this galaxy eh eh that eh and this uh
planet it's
209 it's it's a it's sorta itching abit. And it's
sorta waking up
210 abit and sorta doin' something about it now (.)
through
211 us=
212 L: If it's capable of doing anything.
213 T: Auh auh Well, Jesus Christ has got no other
hands but
214 ours.
215 L: Oh.
216 T: It's only capable of doing what we do. I
mean, as far as
217 (.)we'reconcerned.
218 L: Are you a Christian?
219 T: Well, that depends who I'm talking to
[laughs]=
220 L: Well, just tell me that=
221 T: If I'm talking to you? Well,ah I'm not sure
what l
222 should say about that eh, itja ah ah I'm a
Christian in
223 the sense that Jesus Christ wasn't eh crucified
isn't
224 wasn't crucified between two candlesticks in
a
225 cathedral, he was crucified in the town garbage
heap
226 between two thieves, in that sense I'm a
Christian.
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