L: So it it stands to reason if I believe in a
152 people are going to act like conspirators.
153 T: Yeoh. So far, okay.
154 L: Yeah.
155 T: [laughs]
L: Yeah, but I told Dr. Stumpf, he walked in to
157 throat] the room just as I was saying
158 negative about doctors. [laughs]
159 T: [laughs]
160 L: But he denied that he heard it.
161 T: What? Who walked in the room, Peter?
162 L: Huh?
163 T: Just as (.) Who walked in the room just as
164 were saying something?
165 L: Dr. Stumpf.
166 T: Ahuh ah.
167 L: (3) But I don't know, maybe I expected him
to walk in
168 when I said something negative about doctors. I
169 they try. [laughs]
170 T: Well, that sorta thing happens, is happening
171 time, I mean, I don't I I I eh I don't see wha
y' making a
172 special point of that about?
173 L: Whata ya mean?
174 T: I don't see why (.) you are making a special
175 telling me that eh eh just now since
that sorta thing as
176 you know I know and um I know you know happens all
177 the time anyway.
178 L: Yeah. Well, cause cause they are watching
179 T: [chuckles] Yeah, huh, alright (gotta
stop) [laughs] (8)
180 Well, I mean, this whole sit up set up is an
181 conspiracy and you're right in eh, right in the
182 the conspiracy just now.
183 L: Ump.
184 T: So eh if you haven't [laughs,
coughs] if you, if you if
185 you came to Phoenix to get away from the
186 you haven't done very well.
187 L: What do you mean?
188 T: Well, you're sitting here in this
189 L: You mean the conference is a conspiracy?
190 T: Yah. Course.
191 L: What kind of a conspiracy?
192 T: [clears throat] Eh, well, I've got a
I've got a plane
193 booked eh, to get to Boston Sunday, so I'm not
194 to say what sorta conspiracy is because I want
to go on
195 that plane in a, in good order as far as I'm
196 No, I think it is quite a benign conspiracy. It
197 very concerted deep plan and it involves eh it's much
198 wider than the people who are actually here.
199 thousand people=
200 L: Huh?
201 T: =have flown in and and that's a minor
conspiracy eh in
202 terms of the galaxy but it's quite a big
203 L: Oh, well, what do you know about it.
204 T: Huh?
205 L: What do you know about it?
206 T: Well, I think it's eh, ah (2) I think the
universal mind is
207 eh has been asleep abit eh as far as this
planet goes, I
208 mean in this galaxy eh eh that eh and this uh
209 it's it's a it's sorta itching abit. And it's
sorta waking up
210 abit and sorta doin' something about it now (.)
212 L: If it's capable of doing anything.
213 T: Auh auh Well, Jesus Christ has got no other
215 L: Oh.
216 T: It's only capable of doing what we do. I
mean, as far as
218 L: Are you a Christian?
219 T: Well, that depends who I'm talking to
220 L: Well, just tell me that=
221 T: If I'm talking to you? Well,ah I'm not sure
222 should say about that eh, itja ah ah I'm a
223 the sense that Jesus Christ wasn't eh crucified
224 wasn't crucified between two candlesticks in
225 cathedral, he was crucified in the town garbage
226 between two thieves, in that sense I'm a