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77
T: (5) How would ya er, expect to see a- you you
mean all
78 the pain and suffering and stupidity and
confusion in
79 the world how can there by a universal mind if
a
80 universal mind allows that sorta stuff to go
on?
81 L: Yeah, especially stupidity.
82 T: Uh. So either the the maybe the either the
universal
83 mind is eh stupid itself or it's mad itself or
it doesn't
84 exist.
85 L: Oh, it exists. It might be the sum total of
the human
86 minds; but it it exists.
87 T: Well are you trying to, well, I mean, I've
spent a lot of
88 time trying to work out eh, how that can, ah, be
the
89 case, if it is the case. But, I haven't found
any answer to
90 that (.) myself. But, eh I I still put a collar
and tie on
91 under the circumstances. (.) Why not? Heh,
heh.
92 L: Yeah. I asked him why he didn't kill himself
and he
93 says he not ready yet.
94 T: Uh huh.
95 L: Well, I guess if you're dead, you blow any
chance of
96 make, of doing anything good, huh
97 T: This time round.
98 L: Huh?
99 T: This time round anyway. (5) If we were just
sitting
100 here without these uh, uh cameras on us and
these
101 microphones, I wouldn't say anything just now.
But, eh
102 I feel impelled to eh eh make an effort to keep
talking
103 for the sake of eh people who are listening to
it. Maybe
104 shouldn't bother.
105 L: Are people listening to this?
106 T: Yeah! A whole lot of people are listening
that's part ah=
107 L: Huh?
108 T: eh
109 L: Wait, nobody told me tha tha tha the camers
uz on.
110 T: The cameras (.) er, that guy's got, er as
far as I know,
111 he's got the camera eh on just now and there
are a
112 whole lot of people listening too.
113 L: Geeze, I wouldn't have talked about that
stuff, if I had
114 known the camera's on.
115 T: It doesn't matter, it does ma urn
[laughs] (2) How long
116 you been in Phoenix, then?
117 L: A year and a half.
118 T: And what brought you to Phoenix?
119 L: I was trying to escape the conspiracy and it
didn't work.
120 T: And what conspiracy?
121 L: Well, if there is one I suppose you're a
conspirator and
122 so you know already. If there isn't, I guess I
just
123 imagined it.
124 T: Well, ah whether or not I'm a conspirator
and whether
125 or not you are imagining it, are you prepared
to er eh
126 ah ahgive me your account of what that
conspiracy is?
127 L: As much as I can figure out, yeah.
128 T: Well, go ahead.
129 L: Ea, well, I think a conspiracy (.) doesn't
exist so I just
130 don't think about it. If I don't think about
it, it is not
131 there too much. But, then, people like Peter,
people like
132 Dr. Stumpf, ea you know, they tend ta make me
believe
133 in it again, so [sigh] so I try to
avoid those people. I'm
134 not going to talk to you any more. [to
person off
135 screen] No he's alright=
136 T: [laughs]
137 L: =(When he talks about) his job.
138 T: Is it a benign conspiracy or a malign
conspiracy is it?
139 L: Huh, wha, well
140 T: Is it a conspiracy for good or for evil?
141 L: How the heck if I know but if anybody messes
with me
142 like that I don't care. But you what I figure,
is urn, you
143 see the mind creates a whole lot of
things. You know, I
144 mean, I see mind as really powerful, and and
people
145 subconsciously their minds always interact.
They do.
146 I've seen that=
147 T: Yeah
148 L: =You know (3) and urn, people see what they
expect to
149 see.
150 T: wa
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