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TRANSCRIPTION
SYMBOLS
T:
Laing (therapist)
L: Leila
r ( ) inaudible reading
(word) tentative reading
[ ] nonverbal activity
(3) pause of approximately 3 seconds
(.) very brief pause
= no gap between utterances (latching)
italics marks stress, emphasis.
1
T: Can't hear you, uh
2
L: (They) can't hear me?
3
T: I can hear you now, yes.
4
L: Says, he says when you when you try to torture
him,
5
he's going to get, get a parachute and bailout.
6
T: Uh, huh. To the nether regions,
7
L: Huh?
8
T: To the upper regions.
9
L: To the what?
10 T: To the nether or upper regions. Anyway
Leila
11 L: Huh?
12 T: Ah, I don't know anything about (.) you at
all, ah, and I
13 don't know what (.) to ask you about
yourself.
14 L: [laughs]
15 T: [laughs] What do, what would you feel
that ah=
16 L: [laughs] I don't know...
[laughs]
17 T: =appropriate to say under the
circumstances=
18 L: [laughs] I don't know.
[laughs]
19 T: Is there anything that eh (.) ah do you feel
that your
20 situation is okay for you just now? Or er, you
say, you
21 tell me coming over that you are taking some
22 Nux Vomica to=
23 L: =Yeah.
24 T: =to calm your=
25 L: =Yeah.=
26 T: =system down eh=
27 L: and to sharpen my stupid wits.
28 T: Huh, what is it, what is it that's creating
the static in you
29 system, the disturbance in your system?
30 L: Oh, um, I think my brain don't work
right.
31 T: In what way?
32 L: [laughs] Well, let me see. Well, I
guess, I get the
33 Nux Vomic doesn't treat this per se, I'm getting
another
34 remedy for that. Well, I get things tumed
around, I get
35 opposites confused, I get (.) when I write, I
get my
36 letters confused, I get words confused. (.) And,
eh,
37 either I tend to be paranoid or errr, they
really are after
38 me I don't know which.
39 T: Hum, so you are not sure whether you are
confused
40 about that or not eh?
41 L: About what?
42 T: About whether they really are after you or
not, eh?
43 L: Well, he sounds like it.
44 T: What, him?
45 L: Oh, yeah. [laughs]
46 T: [laughs] You might be after
me, for all I know.
47 L: Oh, I'm just trying to help you guys um get
some sense
48 into your brains. I don't know if it's worth it
though,
49 you know. I I had a guru for a long time who
said da
50 there isn't any sense in it. What you gotta do
ta ta be
51 able to perceive reality is attain a level
of
52 consciousness which he offered which I never
attained
53 which is he said, beyond (.) the mind. It is
completely
54 above the mind.
55 T: What sort of guru is this character?
56 L: This is guru Mahandi.
57 T: Ah, well, what d'you take'm to mean by that,
beyond
58 the mind, or above the mind?
59 L: Well, whatever it is I couldn't imagine with
my mind
60 cause it's beyond the mind. Or I suppose, it's
some sort
61 of, I suppose, it involves a universal, being
conscious
62 of the universal consciousness. You know
everybody is
63 subconsciously aware of um everybody else's
mind.
64 Well, you know that. I've seen that. I've seen
you read
65 my mind.
66 T: I don't see how you can be conscious of the
universal
67 mind, the universal mind's conscious of you but
you're
68 not conscious of it.
69 L: How's that?
70 T: (Here we go!) [chuckles]
71 L: Well, maybe so maybe so, I mean yeah maybe
out of
72 my bitterness I just say, well, the universal
mind you
73 know don't know anything, heh (.) I maybe, I say
that
74 because because um I look around and I don't see
I
75 don't see any superior intelligence taking care
of
76 anything.
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